How I run a team of AI Agents 24/7

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I welcome Ryan Carson back to the show to turn anyone into a world-class agent operator. Ryan spent 25 years founding companies, scaled Treehouse to around 110 employees and a million learners, and now runs Untangle, an AI divorce agent for family law firms, as a team of one while his revenue tracks toward 4x this month. He walks me through his full stack: running cloud agents in parallel, building automations that watch production and improve themselves, and shipping 22 to 40 PRs a day, often from his phone. We also get into keeping token costs sane through model routing and building a durable reputation by sharing your work on X. By the end, listeners hold a clear playbook to run agents, automate the busywork, and ship faster. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 01:43 – The New Agent Paradigm 04:24 – Inside Ryan’s eight-screen desk setup 07:23 – Why Devin and cloud agents 10:00 – Everyone Is Now a Manager of Agents 13:15 – Local vs Virtual Development 14:50 – Agent Management System 24:22 – 3 Automations to build 32:54 – Self-improvement loop with Grace 34:38 – Token costs and model routing 40:33 – Building reputation on X 44:03 – Closing thoughts Key Points Ryan frames every knowledge worker as a manager of agents, and mastering that role is the new edge. Cloud VMs let Ryan run five to ten agents at once and ship 22 to 40 PRs a day. Roughly half of Ryan's work happens on his phone, which keeps his agents moving in real time. Automations like a production watchdog and a daily self-improvement loop hand Ryan a running summary of what matters. Model routing keeps costs in check: budget around $5k a month per employee and lean on cheaper fine-tuned models. Sharing your work publicly on X compounds into relationships and opportunities over time. Numbered Section Summaries Meet Ryan and Untangle Ryan Carson returns to walk me through his stack. He spent 25 years founding companies, scaled Treehouse to about 110 employees and a million learners, and now runs Untangle, an AI divorce agent for family law firms, solo, with revenue