
EP 64: Lack of ROI Is Actually Lack of Trust — Fixing Enterprise AI for Finance | Binny Gill, Kognitos
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This episode was recorded live from the Ai4 conference podcast pavilion, where host Mac Goswami sat down with Binny Gill — CEO & co-founder of Kognitos, holder of ~100 patents, who previously helped scale a company from 20 to 6,000 people and a $7B market cap — about Kognitos's newly launched Context Graph for Finance: deterministic, hallucination-free AI for the office of the CFO.What's Covered:A Genius With Amnesia — Binny's framing of the core problem: an LLM is raw intelligence with no memory. Why prompts (instruction) and context windows (short-term memory) aren't enough, and how a context graph gives AI the long-term memory the brain runs on.The Neuro-Symbolic Harness — How Kognitos runs your English SOPs deterministically — AI that is "not allowed to be creative" on every invoice, only tapping the graph when a real exception appears. Same input, same output, 100 times.Extracting Tribal Knowledge — The processes that live only in John's or Vanessa's head. How Kognitos pulls that undocumented know-how directly from employees as they work — and auto-documents it as executable English.Revenue Leakage & 100+ Signals — Why 1–1.5% revenue leakage happens at nearly every company, and how fraud detection, duplicate payments, and data cleanup ride on top of the context graph."Lack of ROI Is Actually Lack of Trust" — The most important idea in the episode. In POC mode everything works — but nobody ships to production, because if an auditor asks where a number came from and the answer is "the LLM," you're out. Kognitos's answer: full data lineage.Governance in a Regulated Industry — Why a documented, human-approved process is inherently more ethical — and where Binny says you should use Claude, OpenAI, or Gemini instead.Key Quote: "Lack of ROI is actually lack of trust. In POC mode everything works. Nobody trusts it to put in production."Connect with Binny: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/binnygill/ Kognitos: https://www.kognitos.com/Follow and subscribe to AsembleAI: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | iH
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